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India-Pak. Will they ever be friends?
28th May 1999 Srinath S @geocities.com
Hello iinn-mates, I am wondering whether India and Pakistan will ever be friends? What do the non Indian members of the list (are there anyone from Pakistan on this list?) think about it. Personally, I am an optimist, and hope that India and its neighbors go the European way. Europe fought two bitter wars among its countries, but now, the talk everywhere is towards integration-- common currency, better trade, ... One might cite bitter examples of the past and justify the struggle, but I certainly see no end in *that* direction. And indeed looking at more pertinent problems like economic strength or population, both countries better improve ties and move towards economic development before we reach a point of no return (of sorts). I think, regardless of what is happening in Kashmir, both countries should establish stronger links in trade, and more importantly scientific research. Why don't we enumerate a set of tasks we-- as ordinary citizens could do-- to improve relationships among India and its neighbors? Best, Srinath -- Send in your ideas to address challenges of Indian life: http://www.indiapolicy.org/ifi
29th May 1999
Pranav Lal @softhome.net
Hi Srinath and all, I agree. What puzzels me is that the division has come only 50 years ago and so much hate only in 50 years? We should adopt Germany as a model. If they can unify why can't we? True, the circumstances were different but how about it all the same? Pranav
29th May 1999
Shasports @aol.com
I am a firm believer in what you are saying. God bless you.....Pakistan & India should sit down together and work out an agreement where both countries can benefit from each other. As far as I am concerned there is no difference between Pakistanis & Indians except religion...Love for all hatered for none...should be our motto... Tahir Hamid Born Pakistani / With Indian Blood in my veins...
29th May 1999
B.G. Mahesh @hotmail.com
>I am wondering whether India and Pakistan will ever be friends? What do >the non Indian members of the list (are there anyone from Pakistan on >this list?) think about it. > It is always good to have FRIENDLY neighbours but in this case it is doubtful. Pakistan govt is frustrated and they want attention from the world media. To achieve this goal they are doing this but George Fernandes gave a clean chit to the Sharif govt and ISI. This was not a surprise but a SHOCK! He must have his reasons to say that. No news about Jaya-Amma's response to George's statement ;-) >looking at more pertinent problems like economic strength or population, >both countries better improve ties and move towards economic development >before we reach a point of no return (of sorts). > >I think, regardless of what is happening in Kashmir, both countries >should establish stronger links in trade, and more importantly >scientific research. Why don't we enumerate a set of tasks we-- as >ordinary citizens could do-- to improve relationships among India and >its neighbors? > I think citizens of both countries want peace. It is not clear why Pakistan still thinks Kashmir is their property. What happened to all those Shimla, Lahore etc agreements? Pakistan doesn't seem to agree with them now If there is a war, especially a LONG one, India will win. If it is a SHORT one (just few days) not sure what will happen. Hopefully in an act of desparation they should not blast a nuke. Strangely US seems to have shown SLIGHT inclination towards India this time. Another SHOCK this week! US usually bashes India ALL the time. for e.g. US felt it was justified in bombing Afghanistan to protect US (each country wants to protect its citizens, which is fine) but IMMEDIATELY they said it is not right for India to do the same to protect their citizens. This is clearly DOUBLE standards. A poll conducted by ABC News and TIME (on May 28 or 29) indicates majority of Americans feel threatened by China's spying activities. Inspite of that Clinton SUPPORTS China and feels there is nothing fishy going on. US supports Pakistan in a similar way :-( Such things will never create a friendly atmosphere between India and Pak. US has NEVER understood (or admitted) that because of their support to China and Pak , we Indians are threatened. They just don't want us to do anything about it. Totally unacceptable. Media reports that a US rocket was used to shoot down the Indian chopper and the US State dept is not willing to comment about it. One of the best ways to clear the air is for NRIs to WRITE to the media abroad about the facts. As far as the media in US is concerned, India DOESN't exist on the world map. I see the stock market closing numbers of Indonesia and other countries in Washington Post every day (in a BIG table) but Mumbai isn't there. They just LOVE to ignore India. US needs to stop supporting Pakistan and then both countries (India/Pak) will automatically sit down at the table. Peace, ----------------------------------------------------------------------- B.G. Mahesh | http://www.indiainfo.com/ Email: [email protected] | http://www.careerindia.com/
30th May 1999
[email protected]
Greetings folks:
The adage "there is no business like war business" is very much alive and
kicking as is evident even in the late 20th century. Besides is there a
better fuel than Religion for any military aggression? i think not.
Now to understand the on going crisis. Benazir Bhutto has been issued an
arrest warrant by Pakistan. This means that she can never land in
Pakistan again. As in previous occasions the only way to distract and
divert the media's attention is to bring Kashmir in the picture.
Historically, anytime there is unrest and chaos in the political structure
of Pakistan, the Kashmir issue gets printed in the headlines - invariably.
Our friendly neighbor Pakistan can or could never afford any
aggression against a powerful nation like India. During momentary
lapses of reason and consciousness they thought they could and they
tried to attack - only to be pulverized -time and again, driving
their no-economy infrastructure down to the bottomless hell.
Srinath's suggestion of mutual co-operation in science and commerce with
the Pakistanis raises an important question - Besides their ever growing
hatred of Indians, What have been their achievements - scientific or
otherwise?. What trade can be conducted with one of the impoverished
nations of the fourth world? Please understand Pakistan was not India's
idea. Besides, i do not see how this geopolitical situation be compared
to the Balkans or the Europe.
Perhaps one day, after the minds and the attitudes of both sides have been
cleansed thoroughly, then and only then one could expect some form of
resolution.
Until then, One can only hope....
regards,
johnny
4th June 1999
K.Varatharajan @igcar.ernet.in
Dear Mr. Tahir Hamid, I totally agree with you. Let us pray God for that day to come at the earliest and we, Indians and Pakistanis, are setting ourselves as a standing example to the whole world. K. Varatharajan On Sat, 29 May 1999 [email protected] wrote: > As far as I am concerned there is no difference between Pakistanis & Indians > except religion...Love for all hatered for none...should be our motto... > > Tahir Hamid > Born Pakistani / With Indian Blood in my veins...
4th June 1999
K.Varatharajan @igcar.ernet.in
On Sat, 29 May 1999, Pranav Lal wrote: > >Personally, I am an optimist, One might cite bitter examples of the past and justify > >the struggle, but I certainly see no end in *that* direction. And indeed > >looking at more pertinent problems like economic strength or population, > >both countries better improve ties and move towards economic development > >before we reach a point of no return (of sorts). > > Yes, You are correct. If we look back into the history of Gazni's invasion, we - the present Pakistan and India, neighbors were tied up well. Nothing wrong in getting back that situation. After all, history repeats with integrity. > >I think, regardless of what is happening in Kashmir, both countries > >should establish stronger links in trade, and more importantly > >scientific research. Why don't we enumerate a set of tasks we-- as > >ordinary citizens could do-- to improve relationships among India and > >its neighbors? > > > >Best, > >Srinath Yes. With present advancements materialised in both the countries, if we unite together, ours will be the strongest example for the whole world even questioning the big powered USA. Also, interestingly, we have overlapping cultures acting as examples for better civilisation. K. Varatharajan
