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Dilip Kumar's dilemma
12th July 1999 S.R.Pandri Nath @giasbg01.vsnl.net.in
Hi, The recent commotion about Dilip Kumar's so called "Agony" on whether to retain the award he got from his Pakistani friends was really amusing.The fact that he consulted Vajpayee was even more mirth-evoking !! Is Dilip Kumar not old enough or mature enough to make up his own mind about this trivial thing ? What does his conscience say ? Admittedly he is the greatest "Brooding School"of Indian actors. Would his stature as an artiste have dimiinihed if he had returned that medal to the Pakistanis. Is that medal so important to him that he retains it, even as a number of his own countrymen are dying facing the Pakistani bullets ? Mr Dilip Kumar, this is not a question of "Loyalty", this is a broader question of where your affections lie.Your actions speak volumes. What is even more funny is the fact that so many Indians have got worked up over this old man's confusion. The old man has, unfortunately not "grown up". pandrinath
13th July 1999
Niel Hirjee @cal.indiax.com
Hi! > The recent commotion about Dilip Kumar's so called "Agony" on whether to > retain the award he got from his Pakistani friends was really > amusing.The Way I see it, this was political / diplomatic move by DK to neutralize certain groups which were targeting him. Vajpayee sent a clear signal to the BJP and its allies that this issue is DKs personal affair - he was not interested in deriving political mileage out of it. > trivial thing ? What does his conscience say ? Admittedly he is the > greatest "Brooding School"of Indian actors. Would his stature as an > artiste have dimiinihed if he had returned that medal to the Pakistanis. > Is that Ok, tell me, is it impossible for the Pakistani Government to appreciate DK's work as an artist and at the same time have a specific outlook towards Kashmir? His work was appreciated, so he got the award. The politicians wanted to play another round of an age old game, so we got a war. In this situation how would it help our war effort if he returned the award? I think him wise not to view this conflict as a 'them' against 'us' battle. > medal so important to him that he retains it, even as a number of his > own countrymen are dying facing the Pakistani bullets ? Mr Dilip Kumar, > this is It is tragic to see that the good, patriotic and brave men are sacrificing their lives at Kargil. I think we should ask ourselves *why*? The large majority of Indians certainly do not want a war, and I am sure that a large majority of our brothers in Pakistan do not want a war either. Yet this war did happen in a democratic setup. Think about it. Thank you! Regards, Niel Hirjee -- Calport Technologies Phone: +91 33 475-5884 3 Dover Road, Fax: +91 33 476-3021 Calcutta 700 019 Email: [email protected]
13th July 1999
sumeet @bom3.vsnl.net.in
"S.R.Pandri Nath" wrote: hello S.R. Pandri. i sincerely disagree with u in the most staunch way possible and please take this in the right sense. > retain the award he got from his Pakistani friends was really amusing.The tell me... what is "amusing"? tell me what is so funny? > fact that he consulted Vajpayee was even more mirth-evoking !! what is wrong. he did the rightmost thing. i do not know from where do u come from but here the government support the ruling party. if he did not have the support of the Vajpayee government in his action then he would have to leave mumbai immediately. so harsh is the state of affairs today. he finally got some support much to his content. > Is Dilip > Kumar not old enough or mature enough to make up his own mind about this > trivial thing ? trivial thing???????? what is so trivial.. he has his own mind. but not the support of the ruling party. suppose u come home one day and find that there are a number of people parading around your house (with or without clothes, we leave that out) and shouting slogans against u. (let me tell u the language in mumbai is the worst u can ever come across) and not allowing into your own house or whatever. moreover the cops tend to support them. a 'speed' question "what do u do? what do u do?" is it so trivial? u see this is politics in its worst colours. he has to be very careful. > Is that > medal so important to him that he retains it, even as a number of his own > countrymen are dying facing the Pakistani bullets ? when they are dying what were u doing? writing this email in your posh house or office and enjoying the evening out with your friends? > Mr Dilip Kumar, this is > not a question of "Loyalty", this is a broader question of where your > affections lie.Your actions speak volumes. let us not critise others for what they do but ourselves for what we are. if u cannot do anything for this country please do not point fingers at others. please do not pass judgments because u can't and it is a futile waste of time. > over this old man's confusion. The old man has, unfortunately not "grown up". please have SOME SOME SOME SOME SOME SOME SOME SOME respect for this OLD MAN. your letter was tasteless. pathetic reason for writing a letter. if u are so concern about the country and u want to 'make your action speak volumes' then u can write a letter calling all people to donating blood or money for the army. u can also encourage youngster to join the same. sumeet
13th July 1999
Aditya, the Hindu Skeptic @bc.seflin.org
I had decided to ignore this thread until I read two follow ups: Niel Hirjee wrote: > Way I see it, this was political / diplomatic move by DK to neutralize > certain groups which were targeting >him. Vajpayee sent a clear signal > to the BJP and its allies that this issue is DKs personal affair - he > was >not interested in deriving political mileage out of it. It just goes to show the wisdom of Bajpai who rightfully did not want to make political issue of it but as far as DK is concerned it gives him no relief from public criticism. As I see it, the award given to DK was not just because he is a great actor but because he is great muslim actor. Why else Pakistan has not given any award to Devanand who was also born in Pakistan and is no less an actor? Therefore it is already tainted by politics whether DK admits it or not. It is to the credit of India that so many muslim actors are respected no less than their Hindu colleagues but it would be honorable for them to reject any attempts made by Pakistan to isolate and degrade them in the eyes of the Indian audience. If they decide to boycot them, I wonder if Pakistan will be able to provide the wealth that they have amassed on the back of mostly Indian audience. His dilemma is similar to those of many Indians who were awarded knighthood or other honors by the British Raj. Many of them did give up their awards while others did not during the 1942 movement. It was their and only their decision. -- Have a peaceful and joyous day. Aditya Mishra Primary homepage:http://www.smart1.net/aditya ICQ # 1131674 Mediaring # 1-954-746-0442 Fax#: 209-315-8571 Random thought of the day: Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
16th July 1999
[email protected]
This is regarding Sumeet's response to what Pandrinath wrote. "Amusing", the context in which it was used has nothing to do with being "funny". So far as Pakistan is concerned, their attitude is that India is the enemy and will always remain so. Admittedly, it could be just the political thing, but the contact that we have had with young students from Pakistan confirms that their government has been rewriting history, teaching the young children from KG onwards to hate India and never to forget that "they" are the "enemy". True, all people may not reflect those sentiments and we do have some very good friends who are from Pakistan and consider partition to be a tragedy. By returning the medal he would have echoed the nationalist sentiments that Pakistan's action are reprehensible. Don't you see what happened when Pakistani team lost the cricket match?
17th July 1999
Satya Prabhakar @sulekha.com
Liberal democracies don't get hung up and all twisted around on what a private person does with a private award. The only time the country should have an issue with Dilip Kumar is if he is acting against India's national interests and causing material damage. By forcing him to choose and by baselessly branding him a traitor, Indian is acting like a mindless, unthinking fundamentalist regime. Grow up India, you are better than that. Ignore the fellow and let him do what he wants to do.
17th July 1999
B K Gupta @del2.vsnl.net.in
If only Daleep Kumar had a brother that he had lost in the conflict with Pakistan, perhaps he would have realised the gravity of the situation. Still, perhaps, he would not realise the same for the history of people of this religion is "ALAUDDIN KHIZI APNE CHACHA JALALUDDIN KHILZI KO MAAR KAR GADDI PAR BAITHA" "MAHMOOD GAZNAVI NE 17 NAKAMYAB HAMLE PRITHIRAJ CHAUHAN PAR KIYE AUR 18RVE ME JEET GAYA" Be cautious they will keep on fingering till such time they win. The only answer is that we should be and remain strong enough to defend ourselves.
