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Some expereinces!
2nd Dec 1998 Amit Gupta @rws.soft.net
Hi All, It may be bit naive to put this kind of mail on this discussion list but I am unable to resist myself from doing it. I happened to have couple of experiences which many of you might have had during your life. It would be interesting and enlightening to know how INN mates react/ will react in this kind of situation. I to reacted in my own way but I am sure that I was not satisfied with the way handled the situation. 1. I recently came to Bangalore to start my career. So I had to contact an estate agent to get a decent landlord to give me a comfortable place to live in. At the time agent showed me the house, it had two rooms and 1 cupboard. I told to agent that I want two cupboards so he said that he will arrange the another cupboard if I took the house. I took the house, paid the advance and his commission too. But it has been one month since the contract is signed but there is not sign of full filling the promise he made to me. Now he doesn't even listen to phone calls or my requests. Though the issue is not big and still I am curious to know how one should react it. I probably don't want to sit idle and curse the system. 2. Then I had to have a vehicle also. So I bought the second hand vehicle and gave the old documents of vehicle to an Auto agent to change the ownership in my name. Guy promised one weeks time for the job to be done. After one week, I made seven rounds of him, spending some 200 Rs on auto, made 8 phone calls. After spending enough of my energy and time I ended up getting the documents after 2 weeks after the scheduled time. So people, please share you reactions and similar kind of experiences with me and make my soul live with some solace. Thanks Amit
2nd Dec 1998
John K. Philip @hotmail.com
Hi Amit, My name is John. Welcome to the gang. I learnt this lesson - the hard way too - many years ago. I was promised a business setup (stationery)if I invested approx. 20k - i did. Didn't see that person again. Learn from Experience its makes you perfect. Better wisdom next time. JKP So people, please share you reactions and similar kind of experiences = with me and make my soul live with some solace. Thanks Amit
3rd Dec 1998
Sears @bom3.vsnl.net.in
Amit Gupta, I have been in business for the past 20 years now - I have had innumerable experiences wherein I have been cheated of my money from all sorts of people and companies - even MMTC which was a Govt of India undertaking before it was made into a Public Limited Company. I have lost fantastic amount of funds in this 20 years but I have learnt to take all this in good stride and not worry about it b'coz then it would cause heartburn and tension which would affect my health - I consider Money to be a commodity which is very essential but is not the only thing in Life and by Gods grace I have been able to survive all ups & downs inspite of these monies being eaten up. I had taken pagers for my offices from Radiant connect which had some collaboration with Crompton Greaves I believe but after only 1 month I lost my connection, my deposit everything b'coz the company wound up its services - I tried consumer grievances cell but it's a farce - atleast in Indore - it takes for ever and I cant afford to waste time. There are many such experiences. All this has however taught me one thing - dont get tempted into get rich schemes and do only what one can handle himself. It is impossible to do business without trusting and so when you do part with your money in advance - try to ascertain the credibility of the company / person (though this is no guarantee). Pay little more even but pay later if possible rather than give an advance. Like I said - inspite of all this I still suffer small losses but have not let it affect my mind and health. Regards
3rd Dec 1998
Sriram N. A. @pcm.bosch.de
OK, here's one to mull over. On the way back from work a couple of months ago on my scooter, the clutch cable got disengaged, so I could not change gears on the vehicle. This happened very near the factory. I pushed the scooter some distance to a mechanic's shop in a nearby slum area. The fellow as usual removed the engine cowling and gearbox cover, tinkered around a little, and then told me "Something's loose, shall I open the gearbox and check it?" I figured that was all right, so I told him to go ahead. He removed the gear box housing and told me "The second gear wheel has come loose, shall I repair the problem?" I'm supposed to be a trained engineer - but I fell into the trap neatly. Ten minutes later, before I could realise what was going on, I was looking at pieces of the engine lying in the mechanic's tray! He then tells me that if I had run "A few more yards" with the broken gear wheel, I would have ruined the engine. By now I am a little panicky, but the engine is already down. It's got to be repaired anyway. I tell him to do the needful. The next I know, he says the crankshaft cannot be refitted without facing the sides, the bearing shell has to be reground, the bearing itself replaced... I suppose you can guess the rest. It cost me three days of running around behind that fellow and nearly 1,600 rupees to recover my scooter. I had to go back to him again for restoring the foot rest fittings which he had "forgotten" to replace. At the end of this mess, he had the gall to tell me "Sir, I guarantee the work I have done, I will do repairs free for you if the scooter breaks down anytime in the next two years!" The 2nd gear still gives me problems :-( My regular mechanic confirmed that I was simply the latest victim of a hoax which is regularly perpetrated by unscrupulous mechanics on any 'bakra' they can latch on to. The actual cost to me to get my problem repaired on that day should have been not more than 15 rupees! Well, I did learn a lesson, albeit costly, from all this anyway... -- Sriram
3rd Dec 1998
vijay dani @wmi.co.in
My dear Amit,I do not know your age but I am above 60 and I want to tell you that people in India have losy value for word and promises. You will come acros such situations everyday everywhere and every place.I have stopped believing people and always know that they do not mean what they say and promise. Just accept them as they are. It will be futile to do anything else.
4th Dec 1998
Ishita Sukhadwala @bom5.vsnl.net.in
Dear Mr. Dani, I felt sad reading your mail. It's unfortunate that we are reduced to becoming cynical about people and about life *because* of people. Ishita
5th Dec 1998
vijay dani @wmi.co.in
dear ishita, thank you for letter.I know how all those who will read my reply will feel. In my life time I have done a lot for the country, and in turn for the people.But I feel sad to see that the independent India is not what I had expected to be when I celebrated the day in 1947. Then I was in school and felt proud. Today we do not know we are coming or going. People are not mature at all. More than half the population is not interested as to what sort of government we get. Under British we behaved well and did our jobs correctly. To day I cannot point at one place where people work to their full capacity, including private sector. Management training is all fake and we are only trying to copy Americans. We have lost our heritage, love for our history, our culture, and under the facade of globalisation we are just drifting. I see that on the streets, at homes, in offices ,in hotels, at the airport. Do not think I have become cynical. I do not have an answer.I am being bold enough to say that something is wrong with the people. I am neither from the press nor political party to say which I know is wrong.
5th Dec 1998
wlink @giasdl01.vsnl.net.in
There are a lot of mechanics roaming around in Delhi also. You park the Maruti car, and after a while you start and it stops in a a few yards. Luckily a mechanic passing by stops to help you. He says it could be condenser problem and by chance he has one in his bicycle. He demands Rs 100 and settles for 80 or 90. He then fixes the condense and sure enough the car starts and goes on. We found that the condenser was fixed with a screw on some part of bidy and not even connected. The car worked with old condenser only. They do something with the car that it stops soon. Dharam
5th Dec 1998
cosmic energy @nde.vsnl.net.in
O, Lovely young and the old friends: Go to Indian Railway platforms, you will find that everyone is travelling, go to market place to find all are purchasing, go to temple to find everyone worshiping God, go to any wine shop to find everyone is drinking, go to 5 star hotels to find every room is booked. Mind is the source and lips and toungue are quick at its service . Be sometimes with yourself in some lone corner to find out what thoughts are coming with what speed. If we have been brought up in a negative situation or living in a negative situation, our thoughts get conditioned and we unknowingly prevent ourselves from seeing the positive side. Suppose everything is wrong. Then question arises, who is going to correct it. Is it that some angle will come to set everything right ??!! If you have spent 60 years only witnessing negative things, now is the time for you to join me to combat the situation else we go empty hand with no record of doing any thing on this earth except feeding this never satisfied belly. Make this living a little bit memorable by playing our part. Are you ready or this offer will also go in your negative box. Excuse me, if I say that sensing your AURA from here, I find your parts of the brain upto medulla oblongata are depressed, however health aura is balanced. I assure if you join us, you will be a vibrant person writing quite different here to "Inn All India Mailing List". I am confident that you and only you are the persons who can set the things right with assistants like me. With regards, Ms. Seema 1st year student Psychology & Reiki Master ===============================================
6th Dec 1998
Ishita Sukhadwala @bom5.vsnl.net.in
Dear Mr Dani, The irony of the situation is that there are many people out there who feel the same way as you do yet there is no collective effort to do anything about the problems. Everyone seems to have given up. Ishita
6th Dec 1998
Hemant Adarkar @hotmail.com
Dear friends, It is time we look at 'system of alternate medicine' seriously. Allopathy or 'the modern medicine' is scoffed at by many educated persons because of the side effects, doctor-pharma nexus etc. Even a qualified medico will not call this system as perfect science. However, modern medicine is the only system that is backed by proper documentation. This implies that there are checks and balances inspite of many lacunae. I do no know much about Reiki, Pranik healing etc. But, I strongly believe they cannot replace the modern medicine at present. Besides these altenate forms of medicines suffer from the fact that they can be a haven for quacks and hoaxes. It will be a good exercise to discuss even Ayurveda and Homeopathy in this fora. Over to iinn-mates. Regards, Hemant ----------------------------------------------------------- Dr Hemant Adarkar 202 Ramnimi, 8 Mandlik Road, Colaba, Mumbai 400 001 India Tel: 91 22 2042655/2882178 Fax: 91 22 2820594 -----------------------------------------------------------
7th Dec 1998
Pramod Sahasrabuddhe @giasbm01.vsnl.net.in
Dear friends,
I am seeing this kind of overt advertising on the list for some
time. If it is an advertisement for some business purpose please put it
under that 'sponsored' category.
To best of my knowledge Reiki has no scientific backing and is
surviving without any scientific study. It should be discouraged on that
count. As it is it may not be harmful to patients. However it can cause
harm if proper medical attention is denied to a patient under its guise.
Pramod
>Make this living a little bit memorable by playing our part. Are you ready
>or this offer will also go in your negative box. Excuse me, if I say that
>sensing your AURA from here, I find your parts of the brain upto medulla
>oblongata are depressed, however health aura is balanced. I assure if you
>join us, you will be a vibrant person writing quite different here to "Inn
>All India Mailing List". I am confident that you and only you are the
>persons who can set the things right with assistants like me.
>
>With regards,
>Ms. Seema
>1st year student Psychology &
>Reiki Master
>
7th Dec 1998
Sunil V. Nalavade @bom2.vsnl.net.in
